Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
“Backed Into a Corner” – S7/E11
AKA: “Conveniently Selective Amnesia”
The women arrive at Punta Mita but not before several conversations took place about Kim’s sobriety.
The women are in Punta Mita and several conversations took place about Kim’s sobriety.
Can anyone PLEASE tell me why we’re even talking about Kim and her sobriety? We talk about it so much that I hope her sobriety is getting a paycheck for it. Kim is not even a “real housewife” anymore but is just a “friend.” Seriously, perhaps her sobriety will be shown in next week’s group picture holding a diamond.
It seems odd to me that everyone else is way more interested in Kim’s sobriety than Kim is. There is something inherently wrong with that… no?
While watching the show, I was distractedly interested in knowing what everyone was saying NOW that they’ve seen the footage from these episodes of Rinna saying EXACTLY what Eden said she had discussed with her – in EXACTLY the way she reported it to Lisa Vanderpinkie.
How is Lisa & Her Lips gonna extricate herself from this mess? On the show, while Eileen had “Montezuma’s Revenge,” Lisa & Her Lips had a bad case of selective amnesia.
So, instead of recapping the episode… Let’s go to their blogs from this week, shall we? Many of them have already posted… Please note that these are excerpts only and that their blogs in their entirety can be accessed at: http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/blogs. For clarity, my snarky comments will be colored teal.
Hello from the Lion’s Den.
See… Now right off I’m already pissed off. Lisa & Her Lyin’ Lips are setting the stage that she’s an innocent wounded gazelle being thrown into a den of lions that are lying in wait to pounce on her. Puhleeze. You’re a leopard print wearing gossipy big mouth whose lips really should be big enough to keep your mouth shut – but sadly – they’re not.
Do you have any idea what I would give to go back to the night before this to watch Delilah walk in the Tommy Hilfiger show?
Do you have any idea how to pronounce “Hilfiger”? Evidently not. You screwed up the pronunciation of it again for the 2nd week in a row – unless you’re just being playfully funny. I’m not sure that Tommy would laff at that, though… lol.
Let’s just get right to the point, shall we? When Erika gave me the heads up that I needed to talk to Kyle because Eden had said something that was now circulating around our group, I knew I needed to speak with Kyle at that moment.
Eden was only trying to figure out why you told her the things you told her. Her talk with Vanderpinkie was her just trying to figure out why you said what you said. She was confused at why everyone seemed mad at her. Clearly, she inserted herself into Kyle and Kim’s situation way too much for a newbie… but she DID have a sister die as a result of addiction so it’s very close to her heart.
I’m grateful to Erika for giving me the heads up and not repeating to me what happened the night before. She refuses to play this game of telephone, and I so respect that about her.
I like how Erika handled the situation with you – though I’m not crazy that it was done during Mauricio’s beautiful party. But I have a feeling that Production had a heavy hand in that timing. It’s like whenever there’s a nice dinner or a party planned…. My brain wonders, “Okay, what drama is gonna get stirred up THIS time.” It all seems so stupidly staged.
(Rinna’s Blog Continues…)
There are a couple of points I want to remind you of. First is the fact that I had no idea that any of this had gone on and that these girls were lying in wait for me.
OMG, Lisa, no one was “lying in wait” for you. In fact, Kyle was trying NOT to talk to you at all. When you first arrived, Kyle couldn’t even be bothered to get out of the swimming pool to greet you ‘cuz she was too busy eating guacamole and dip. Who can blame her?
Personally, I’m surprised your high-pitched, obnoxiously squeaky “helloooooooooooooos” didn’t cause dogs come running in from every direction.
I will say no one has received such a frosty reception since Jill Zarin (RHONY) surprised everyone and showed up unannounced to Ramona’s trip to St. John, US Virgin Islands. Brrrrrrrr….
See, now I hate this whole situation a lot more ‘cuz it made me think of Jill Zarin. UGHHHHHHH!
Erika was the one who initially said something to you… no one else. I HATE that you’re playing an innocent victim here – and this is AFTER you’ve seen the footage of you and your lyin’ lips.
This is now two months after Game Night, and since then I have had a handful of conversations with Eden regarding her issues with Kyle and Kim.
Wait, you had a “handful of conversations”… What’s up with that? But you’ve also said that you rarely talk about Kim… So which is it?
With the exception of the conversation we had while shopping, they have all consisted of me warning Eden that she needs to let the issue go. At the end of our conversation in the store, I told her that third time’s a charm, and I am done. Moving on. Which is precisely what I did from that moment forward. I compartmentalized the conversation and put it to bed.
How can you POSSIBLY think that someone is going to “put it to bed” when her sister died from addiction? It gave the whole situation a very imminent feel to it.
Now, to be fair… I have absolutely thought the same thing about Kim – that she was close to dying. In the distant past when I actually cared, I was nervous that Kim was not going to make it out of the bottom of the wine bottle… pill bottle… or whatever other bottle may or may not be allegedly involved.
I have no idea if Kyle is being an enabler or not. Kyle was the one who outed Kim’s alcoholism on national TV – so for years, she’s no longer hiding it. The part that Kim is a celebrity and wants future work plays into how her alcoholism has been covered up, too. We know that Kyle and Mauricio give Kim money – but we really don’t know if that’s as a result of some sort of an agreement/arrangement about property or what… Who knows? We only know pieces.
I do know it would have pissed me off if someone had blamed me for enabling my dad’s alcoholism.
The second point is my exact words to Eden in that conversation were “They’re this close to Kim dying.” Meaning, I was referencing what Kyle shared with all of us in the Hamptons about Kyle’s fear of losing her sister. In no way was I saying Kim was on a path to destruction, nor was I implying that Kim was on the brink of death. But unfortunately, this is how my message was relayed to Eden’s attentive audience shortly before we all left for Mexico.
OMG… It was “relayed” that way because YOU “relayed” it that way to Eden. There was no additional explanation from you to Eden that we saw. OMG… You HAVE the footage and you STILL say this? Wow… You really should know better, since you’ve been parsing Vanderpinkies exact words for several seasons now.
Clearly, I need to add more Ginko Biloba to my pill bag, because I could benefit from it’s memory-helping benefits.
Giggles… See… this is why I cannot hate Lisa or Her Lyin’ Lips – ‘Cuz she makes me laff. I can’t help it. Heck, I’ll even overlook her using the wrong form of “it’s” in her sentence… Well, almost… lol.
At one point in my life I started taking Ginko – but I just couldn’t remember to take it the requisite 3 times per day. Isn’t it kinda wonky that a pill that’s supposed to increase your memory has to be taken 3 times a day? If I could remember to take a pill 3 times a day – I wouldn’t HAVE to have my memory enhanced, dagnabit!
(Rinna’s Blog Continues…)
It’s embarrassing and frustrating to watch all of this play back, because I truly did not remember the conversation I was accused of having.
“Accused of having”? You HAD the conversation – You’ve seen the footage. Period. Lisa, my friend, you and your lips are a piece of work.
Do you think we ALL have severe memory issues? OMG… I grow tired.
Instead, the intention of what I said regarding Kim was all twisted after going through so many people, and I simply wasn’t going to own up to something that I couldn’t remember.
Even IF you didn’t remember it then…and that’s a ginormous “IF”… Your response to this whole thing now is incomprehensible. It’s hard for me to imagine that you didn’t remember ANY of it… But you didn’t even fess up to the salient pieces of the conversation. That’s overly convenient of you.
I know we all have different capacities for memory. I generally suck at remembering the exact words that were used during a conversation – but I usually can tell you the context, the concept, how the words made me feel, the color of paint on the walls, etc. I just may not remember the exact words… However, there are snapshots of my life that I can remember every single thing in vivid detail. It’s really weird.
Memory fascinates me. If you ask my friends, they would tell you I have an incredible memory ‘cuz I can remember stuff from back in elementary school that others have no recollection of at all. I just can’t tell you what I had yesterday for lunch. Or what I had this morning for breakfast. Wait… it’s too early to have had breakfast yet, whew!
The bottom line is this, I wish I had never said what I did to Eden, regardless of my intent, because it’s obvious that we have two very different realities of the situation.
Eden relayed what you said to her EXACTLY as we saw it unfold in the footage. There are not “two very different realities of the situation.” There’s the reality we all witnessed from watching the footage… and then there’s your delusion. Period.
For that, I hold myself responsible and like we see Erika say about me in her interview, “I betcha she’ll get around to owning it.” And I betcha Erika is right.
Where in this whole blog did you OWN anything?????? When did you EVER own anything?????
Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to shake off this incredibly frustrating night, pull myself together, honor my inner Erika Jayne, hop up on the table and dance to “Painkillr.” I mean, isn’t that what everyone does?
Okay, now I like it when the girls cut loose and have unbridled fun. The weird thing is that you were sexually dancing on a table and there were 2 married guys sitting right there. It made it better that the wives were there too – but your hiney was gyrating like 6 inches from their faces.
You have said that you would do anything for a buck… I hope you got paid well for this. I wonder if anyone remembered to bring dollar bills.
You were also the one sitting in judgment of Erika’s music video when you first saw it a couple of seasons ago – Yet now you have no problem of imitating her dance moves on a table.
It’s interesting how our perceptions change, no? Like how I used to think that you and your lyin’ lips at least tried to tell the truth. Silly me.
Let’s start this blog post with the beautiful part of this episode…my mama. She is such a strong, beautiful woman, who so easily brings me back down to earth.
Your mother is stunning. She seems to be as beautiful on the inside as she is on the outside. She is also in her 70s. If I didn’t like her so much, I’d hafta hate her.
I saw Kat and me in Kim and Kyle, and it was scary and emotionally overwhelming. I’m not a troublemaker, guys. I NEVER meant to insert myself into a situation that would cause drama. But I guess it took my mom explaining to me that it’s not my job to fix other people to realize that I needed to take a step back and let it be. I am powerless in this situation. My passion got the best of me. #ImMyFathersDaughter
“You, my dear, are powerless over other people’s lives. So, we can share it, but we can’t change it, OK?” –Beverly Sassoon
Well, I do think you have some marching orders to cause some drama on this show. Everyone has the same orders – it’s what Production thinks makes reality TV watchable.
Have I mentioned how much I love your mom? Why isn’t SHE on this show, daganbit? Wouldn’t THAT be awesome?
Lisa Rinna said she had a deep conversation with me, about me, and that I wanted to help her heal her relationship with Kim Richards. Yes, we did talk about me, and her, and about A LOT! But RINNA is the one who asked me to help her heal her relationship with Kim! I didn’t think it would be too hard… but then again, I didn’t realize that they couldn’t stand each other! I didn’t watch past seasons, so I didn’t see how volatile their relationship was. That was my first mistake — agreeing to help.
It baffles me that people come on this show claiming not to have watched previous seasons. I believe Eden on this point – ‘Cuz I think she would have easily recognized the futility of her actions if she had.
Rinna said she thinks this situation is bullsh– if you ask her… well no one did ask you! If anyone should think this situation is bullsh– it’s me! I mean come on; Rinna deserves a damn Oscar for the performance she just gave in Mexico.
Yeah, while I really hated your approach to the whole Kim and her sobriety thing… I get WHY you’re doing it – but HOW you’re doing it really sucks. I despise even talking about Kim at all at this point.
However, you are being thrown under the bus for sure.
But it didn’t just stop at the “selective memory.” Rinna continued to cry and cry and cry and say, “I don’t want to do this. I feel like I have been stabbed in the back.” Honestly, now it’s just funny. The more she cries, the more they play back the moment when Lisa Rinna says everything she’s denying.
Yeah, the whole “stabbed in the back” part was a little much, no? But that’s Lisa & Her Lyin’ Lips’ inner soap opera actress coming out. Poor widdle Lisa… She’s such a victim.
However, she’s jumping for joy on the inside to have another storyline that gives her airtime. #Winning #LeopardPrintDNA (Homage to Charlie Sheen)
I mean even the girls admit that she could have said something like that in one of her angry moments…well she wasn’t even mad when she said it. We were calm, shopping. She remembers. #CaughtRedHanded
Perhaps she’s an angry shopper, no?
Erika tried her hardest to get Rinna to “own it, own it” (LOL, Vanderpump), but it will all come out soon enough.
I rub my greedy blogger’s hands in eager anticipation.
I finally made it to Mexico! Too bad I was sick from the moment I got there. This left me incapacitated and not at all helpful while all hell broke loose.
I must admit that you look great this season – even when you’re sick. I don’t know if you hired hair and makeup artists and an entire team of fashion stylists or not – but whatever you did – it’s working.
Believe me, the last thing I ever wanted to do was talk about Kim Richards. But she made that impossible when she inserted herself into a situation she knew nothing about at Game Night.
Wait… So now it’s Kim’s fault Rinna’s talking about her behind her back? Oh, come the heck on… I’m no fan of Kim’s – but not even I can blame her for that.
Kim would never have been a topic of conversation if she hadn’t aggressively gone after Lisa R. and me and how she viewed our friendship. This is an issue that goes back to comments Kim made in Amsterdam. It has never been resolved, and Lisa R. reacted emotionally because of it.
What “friendship” are you possibly talking about? You and Rinna have no “friendship” with Kim otherwise your conversations about her sobriety would have been off-camera – especially if you guys were really so concerned that she was so close to death.
Sure Kim threatened to talk about Rinna’s husband – but she didn’t say anything specific at all when they were in Amsterdam. I mean it’s not like she broke a wine glass and threatened to use it as a weapon or anything. No, that would be your good friend Lisa & Her Lyin’ Lips.
Kim is a snake for sure… But at least I don’t feel like I hafta hide sharp objects from her when she comes over. Not that she comes over or anything… Now, the booze… I’d hafta hide the booze. And the Advil. Wait… do I even HAVE booze?
The very next day [after Game Night], emotions still fresh, Lisa R. confided in Eden, asking her how she might finally find peace with Kim. That is the only reason she had that conversation. Lisa R.’s comments about Kim were inaccurate and extreme. That’s not up for debate. But her intent wasn’t malicious, no matter how it may look, or no matter how it’s being portrayed now.
Well, Eileen (“That Tramp” I used to love but now not so much except that she might be growing on me a little bit again) calls her dear friend out on her comments being inaccurate and extreme. I gotta give her props for that.
I agree that Rinna isn’t malicious. She’s thirsty but not malicious. She speaks before she thinks but she’s not malicious. I mean, you know, if any of us can really correctly judge each other’s intentions.
I don’t get the whole, “no matter how it’s being portrayed now” part, though… It’s one of the few times in “real housewife” history that a conversation was relayed exactly how it originally happened – We have the footage to prove it.
If you were part of the subject of the conversation as Kyle was, you would feel upset about it, too. Kyle has bent over backwards fighting to get and keep her sister sober. She seems to have done more that most sisters ever would – even laying their relationship on the line over it all.
To have “a friend” tell a newbie that she’s enabling Kim’s addiction – Well, it would be completely devastating. Shame on you, Lisa – You know better than that. Kyle (and maybe Eden) is the one who has the knife in her back, not Lisa or Her Lyin’ Lips.
This is not to take away from how upsetting this must be for Kim and Kyle Richards. I agree with Kyle that this kind of talk can set a fragile person back. I also think what Lisa R. said is nothing as damaging as Eden going around saying horrible things about Kim and Kyle both, and comparing Kim and Kyle, to their faces and behind their backs, to her and her sister who passed away from alcohol. In these situations, I think the intent is key. What was Eden’s intent saying, “You don’t want my help down the stairs? Fine, I’ll let you crawl!” about Kim? Whatever it was, it was not coming from a place of wisdom or concern.
Intent absolutely can be key… What is Eden’s intent? She was told by Lisa that Kim was near death – so Eden’s trying to do whatever she can to prevent it from happening. THAT’s her intent. She’s been in the same bottle that Kim finds herself trapped in… She’s sending a lifeline. Though right about now, she’d prolly like to choke a few of you with it.
Kim can be a horrible person to people who just want to help her. If Kim treated me the way she treats others, I might be tempted to let her crawl down the stairs, too. Sometimes tough love is “wise” in situations like these.
I hate that I’m defending Eden ‘cuz I really think she overstepped her boundaries a lot.
What is sometimes difficult to remember as you, the viewer, follow the trail of these complicated scenarios is the fact that you have much more information than we do at the time.
Yeah, that’s why I was compelled to read these blogs this week for the first time in like forever. Because NOW you ALL have the same info as we do – and I was interested in how you responded to it.
I obviously had little knowledge of Eden’s character. How reliable was she, as she reiterated her conversations with LR to me?
It’s tough being the new kid. I don’t know who Eden is supposed to trust at this point. But she came on way too strong for my liking. Way, way, WAY too strong. However, to me she relayed her conversation with Rinna to you flawlessly. The footage proves that fact.
You have witnessed LR stating her opinion regarding the Kim “close to dying” and also the enabling comment, but I was slowly watching the layers of this unfold, wondering if when confronted LR would cop to the fact and admit it.
Nope. Rinna admitted nothing… Even now.
She had so much conviction as she denied all the assertions it was almost convincing, but I drew my knowledge from past experience. A past experience that still resonated, that was pretty traumatic, as I battled all of them last year.
I will say that you were a little too giddy at how this was all going down. I don’t blame you – I’m sure I would have been worse. But being so overly happy about someone else’s downfall is not a good look on you. You’re better than that.
We didn’t see the tears outside, but it was disappointing once again now to see Eileen try to deflect from the crux of the matter and point a finger at me. I understand the need to defend a friend, but sometimes real friendship is guiding them in the right direction.
Well, it’s all YOUR fault, isn’t it? I royally hurt my shoulder the other day and it’s all YOUR fault, dagnabit. It’s ALWAYS your fault.
Was there some sort of feeling of vindication? Hell yes. How could there not be as Rinna vociferously denied her statements that she carelessly made just a few short weeks ago about a precarious subject, including Kim’s sobriety that she worked so hard for? The ramifications of those comments emotionally could be potentially huge for Kim and her family, and that doesn’t sit well with me.
Okay, now YOU’RE being melodramatic here. The ramifications from comments made about Kim’s sobriety or lack thereof rest squarely on Kim. Period. No one cares about comments made on a reality show. Just because Rinna doesn’t think Kim is entirely sober doesn’t mean anything at all. I mean, who really cares about Rinna’s opinion on this subject?
I certainly don’t… And it pisses me off that I’m having to write about it AGAIN. I haven’t wanted to talk about Kim at all – and so I’ve refrained from blogging some of these shows. But evidently, if I don’t want to talk about Kim… I won’t be blogging this entire season at all. It’s all so ridiculous.
The real issue is whether or not Kim is actually sober. No one other than Kim knows for sure. She’s lied over and over again about it like most addicts do.
It was difficult last year as she claimed to have an accurate recall of a sentence which had transpired months before she brought it up, a sentence where we argued over three words as it changed the meaning and intention, but now she has no recollection of stating publicly such ludicrous claims. Selectively convenient one might say.
One might say.
I was relieved to be leaving, even though I had to tackle the intimidating and daunting task of speaking before Congress, a mission we had fought for many months.
A chance to stand up and speak our truths about the atrocities and crimes against humanity as thousands of dogs are slowly tortured during the summer solstice in China, known as the Yulin Dog Meat Festival.
You’ve raised my awareness of the issue. I applaud you for that.
To me, that is what life is all about, having the courage of your convictions, standing up for what we believe in and having truth in your heart.
Eventually—you might have to show great patience—the truth will emerge.
So do keep watching, and we will get there eventually.
Isn’t the truth out now? There isn’t any mystery to me at all… The only thing that hasn’t happened is that Rinna hasn’t “owned” her words nor apologized for them. Lisa Vanderpinkie ends her blog by saying, “P.S. Kyle I do not have huuuuuge underwear, only the ones you left here a while back…” I really do love it when Kyle and Lisa tease each other.
Well, that’s it for this week… Whew… I hope they change the subject soon… I can’t believe we’re talking about Kim who is mostly not even on the show. I’m also tired of the constant infomercials we’re getting. I love the house they’re staying in but it cracked me up they showed it as “Casa Cuixa – Kyle & Mauricio’s Rental Estate.”
Thanks for sticking with me through this very long blog of blogs… I haven’t done one in a while and it brought back bad memories of doing them for RHONJ… Ugh! Lol… Until next time…
Video Of The Week
I love videos of animals in the snow. This is a new YouTube video posted by France Sire entitled, “Horses Playing in Snow Like Kids.. Crazy!”