The Real Housewives of New York City
RHONY’s Relationship Status –
Part 3 of 3
Yay! We’re finally at Part 3 of 3 of our analysis of the quickly changing relationships of the Real Housewives of New York City.
As a reward for getting through it – We’ll also look deeper at a couple of the more significant scenes thus far and we’ll throw in some “Quotable Quotes” for good measure!
If you missed the previous posts…
Part 1: RHONY’s Relationship Status – “It’s Complicated” – Access it at: https://snackingandsnarking.com/2018/05/rhonys-relationship-status-its-complicated/
Part 2: RHONY’s Relationship Status – “It’s Convoluted” – Access it at:
In Part 1 and Part 2 we analyzed how…
Bethenny’s Friendship Status – “It’s Devastated”
Carole’s Friendship Status – “It’s Decaffeinated”
Dorinda’s Friendship Status – “It’s Inebriated”
Luann’s Friendship Status – “It’s Incarcerated”
Ramona’s Friendship Status – “It’s Computer-Generated”
Today we breakdown the last two…
Sonja’s Friendship Status – “It’s Alienated”
Tinsley’s Friendship Status – “It’s Infatuated”
I’d say once again (as I’ve said in the last couple of posts) to, “Grab some popcorn and your drink of choice as we finish our 3 part journey”… but aren’t we tired of popcorn by now? Yet “grab some pretzels” just doesn’t have the same zing.
I suppose I could say, “Grab some Bob’s Soft Peppermint Balls” because that’s what I’m honestly sucking on at the moment. Wait… that sounded way dirtier than it is…
Anyhoo… Let’s get started… lol!
Sonja’s Friendship Status – “It’s Alienated”
Up until this week, Sonja was being given the cold shoulder by everyone but Bethenny and Luann. Whenever the women all sat down for a meal somewhere – Sonya’s seat was always at the end of the table away from the “cool” girls.
Spoiler Alert! There was a Friendship Summit this week… and some of the ice melted… But never fear – I’m confident it’s only temporary.
Everyone – In my opinion, Sonja should be cranky at everyone (Including Production) for not offering her a ride to the Hamptons – Instead, she had to schlep her designer luggage to the jitney pickup point.
I felt sad for Sonja. I used to ride the bus all of the time and even got to the point where I semi-enjoyed it – Though we have the worst bus system in the world where I live.
We need to spin it differently, so it’s not so sad for Sonja, right? Let’s think of it as Sonja’s just being environmentally aware.
Sonja says riding the jitney is relaxing to her… She explains that one of her friends met her current husband on the jitney. Oh, I get it now – This is how Sonja plans to meet her next husband. She also just wants time to read the newspaper… but it’s probably mostly to meet men… lol.
Riddle me this: What in the heck is Sonja doing in her day-to-day life that she doesn’t have time to read the newspaper? It makes no sense to me…
In addition, Sonja could also be mad at everyone for being banished to the end of the table at every single get together as if she’s a leper. There’s only 7 women yet they all go out of their way to place cards so they control where everyone sits – even when they’re at the corner coffee shop.
It’s embarrassing, really… You’re sitting 2 feet away from every single other person at the table no matter where you sit. Who cares if you’re sitting next to your bestie…
Bethenny – My how times have changed… Not only is Sonja NOT at odds with Bethenny this season, as she was last season… but Bethenny has taken the role of being Sonja’s defender as she fights with all the others (except Luann).
I think somewhere along the line, Bethenny learned how to speak Sonja-ese – She just gets her, now.
Sonja, by her own admission, isn’t able to express her feelings very well. Plus, Sonja suffers from a bad case of tangent-itus when she talks about anything. Sonja loses all of us whenever she speaks because her mind and her mouth go off in different directions and none of them make sense.
Bethenny knows firsthand that divorce is torturous. On many levels Bethenny can understand Sonja’s pain though their divorces were different from one another – as most divorces are…
Sonja loves Bethenny… Sonja’s face lights up when she talks to her like she’s talking to her idol. Sonja might even want to be Bethenny – or at least skin her and wear her like last year’s Versace (Gratuitous nod to the 2nd episode of the Real Housewives of New Jersey from several years ago when Dina was talking about Danielle’s obsession with her).
Carole – Sonja is blissfully unaware that she has any reason to be angry with Carole. I can’t remember a single situation when she’s had a specific argument with Carole without someone else as the subject for the argument.
The thing is… Carole has been talking negatively about Sonja behind her back… and sometimes even directly to her face.
Carole and Tinsley love to sit on the other end of the table and trash talk Sonja. It irritates me because they’re always only like 2-3 feet away and Sonja can obviously hear everything they’re saying. They know this of course… and they just don’t care.
Carole says that Sonja is “Nasty-Nice.”
This season, Carole is besties with Tinsley who is mad at Sonja. So using the transitive property of real housewives’ relationship math:
If Carole loves Tinsley – and – Tinsley is mad at Sonja… then Carole is mad at Sonja.
Sonja could be mad at Carole for continuing to emphasize to Tinsley that Sonja is basically calling Tinsley “a whore” when Sonja accuses Tinsley being a “kept woman” and for allowing her boyfriend to pay for everything.
On several levels, Sonja would love to be a kept woman.
Sonja also told us that she was miffed at Carole after she sent a long heartfelt email congratulating Carole on running the marathon. In it, Sonja told Carole that it was an awesome accomplishment etc. Carole’s response was a succinctly curt “thx.”
Sonja complained that Carole couldn’t even be bothered to spell out “thanks.” When she told Luann about it – Luann said she had a similar response from Carole, too – though Luann was sure her “thanks” was at least spelled out. #IAmBetterThanYou
Dorinda – Sonja and her date Rocco were aloof while at Dorinda’s Halloween party. Instead of going over to great the host and the other housewives at the event, they chose to stand at the bar for over an hour without saying anything.
This angered Dorinda so much that she filmed a goofy baby voice TH that mocked Rocco and implied he was “afraid” of talking to the women at the Halloween party. She was pretty nasty. For the record, it was Sonja’s choice not to talk to the women, not Rocco’s.
I think Sonja will be mad and a little hurt at Dorinda because after they went on a walk together – Dorinda went around badmouthing Sonja and saying that she is “nuts.”
Speaking of nuts, did any of you see last week’s season premiere Below Deck Mediterranean? The yacht guests asked for some nuts – and it took the crew over 25 minutes to give it to them. Why isn’t there a spread of snacks available when guests first arrive on the yacht because they’re always hungry? They asked no fewer than 3 times for nuts… yet it still took that long…
To be fair, these guests are in the running to be the nastiest, most ungrateful, and overly entitled guests there probably has ever been on the show…
You’ll be happy to know they did ultimately get their nuts. I believe you are what you eat.
Meanwhile, back to our show…
Sonja could be mad at Dorinda for calling her a “bully.” Dorinda told Tinsley that while they were in the Hamptons, she was going to confront Sonja and say, “Stop with this fraudulent behavior.” Dorinda also planned to tell Sonja, “Everything that comes out of your mouth is twisted and not true.”
Sonja doesn’t even know it is coming.
Dorinda said Sonja has “a Candyland mentality” but that she also has a dagger waiting to stab you. She also said that Sonja jabs you but you don’t feel the jab until after it’s all over and there’s blood everywhere. You end up looking around saying, “What happened?”
In Part 2 of this blog, we already talked about why Dorinda is mad at Sonja and how it resulted in THE BIG FIGHT. Dorinda confessed to Luann that if Ramona hadn’t intervened during their big fight, that Dorinda would have hit Sonja.
‘Cuz, ya know… there’s nothing like resorting to physical violence to solve a problem, right? I think Dorinda thought Sonja was stomping on her grief.
For the record… Never ever stomp or disrespect someone’s grief. When you’re grieving you’re at one of the most vulnerable points of life. It’s like you’re sprawled out on an operating table with all of your insides torn out.
The layers of kindness and civility that once protectively ensconced you have been ripped away. So when anyone says anything that can be remotely perceived as being wonky about your loved one or your situation – you instantly go for the jugular and take no prisoners.
It takes a long time for this aspect of grief to subside. Sometimes it never does. Maybe it shouldn’t.
I think this is why Dorinda flipped out even now, after all these years. Sonja didn’t have a beef with Dorinda on the divorce vs. death subject at all. Sonja’s only point, really, was that she was hurting, too.
Sonja could also be mad at Dorinda for calling her, “A rattlesnake – You want to touch her and hold her by the tail – and shake… don’t let that face come up and bite you.” Ouch.
Sonja could also be cranky at Dorinda for trying to stir the pot between she and Tinsley. Dorinda actively tried to wind up Tinsley for a big confrontation at the party for Carole in the Hamptons. Dorinda took great glee in encouraging Tinsley to go after Sonja. At least Dorinda “owns” being a spoon.
Luann – Sonja is in a good place with Luann now that Tom’s out of the picture. Remember that Sonja had “casual relations” with Tom for several years that occasionally included having “coffee” together. If you missed what “having coffee” really means… You might want go back and read Part 1 of this blog… lol.
It seems like Sonja and Luann genuinely like each other and don’t have many reasons not to. Well, except they’re both cougars and are in direct competition with each other for a dwindling number of datable prey available on the New York Serengeti.
Ramona – When Dorinda was freaking out at Sonja during lunch in the Hamptons, instead of sticking up for her former bestie, Sonja – Ramona insisted that Sonja apologize to Dorinda to make it all go away. This really pissed off Sona because she didn’t think she any reason to apologize.
Ramona just wanted to have a peaceful dinner party later that night. Ramona’s learned that apologies, no matter how insincere, sweep the dirt under the carpet.
Sonja was mad at Ramona and everyone else for not acknowledging that she had reason to hurt, too.
Sonja was so livid at Ramona that she sent her a lengthy break-up text (or email) and said some incredibly nasty things. Of course, Ramona shared it immediately with Dorinda… lol. #Storyline
When Dorinda accused Sonja of cheating on her ex-husband, Ramona again remained silent. It’s hard to know if Ramona actually knows something or if she’s just heard rumors. Ramona tends to believe rumors…
Well, except when it came to the rampant rumors about her former husband, Mario cheating on her. Whoa… it’s been a while since I’ve typed that name…
Tinsley – Sonja’s mad at Tinsley for badmouthing to everyone how horrible it was to live with Sonja last season. Sonja thinks if Tinsley had the money to pay for a $5,000 gift certificate and to make large donations to charities, etc. that she could have easily moved out at any time.
Let’s just pretend that Production didn’t have a hand in requiring new cast member, Tinsley, to live with Sonja, shall we?
Sonja claims that Tinsley never spent one thin dime on anything while living rent-free with Sonja. She never bought Sonja or any of her “staff” anything special throughout her stay. She didn’t even get Sonja a card for her birthday.
Let’s just stop right there… Even IF Tinsley didn’t realize it was Sonja’s birthday until that very day – or even the day after… Why didn’t she run out and get her something or at least offer to take her to lunch? She could have even stuck a candle in her morning croissant, no?
Several years ago, I had the amazing opportunity to go to Fiji for 10 days to work with a group of missionary kids from the Pacific Islands. The last couple of days of the journey, I spent with some friends of my coworker. This family knew me for all of 2 days.
The day we left to fly back to the states happened to be my birthday. The family found out about it while driving us to the airport. While sitting at the departure gate, imagine my surprise when I was summoned back to the airport check-in desk. I couldn’t imagine what was going on.
After waiting several panic-stricken minutes, a woman walks over to me holding a birthday card and gifts from this family. They had dropped us off and then parked without us knowing it. They bought a couple of items at the gift shop and wrapped them as best as they could.
I was shocked and the kindness brought me to tears.
Fun fact – I spent all day on my birthday in Fiji. I boarded the plane I the evening and when we arrived back at LAX the next morning… it was my birthday all over again! I had 2 birthdays that year – I mean 2 real birthdays. I didn’t even realize that’s how it was going to happen until it happened… lol.
The problem is that it must mean that I’m an extra year older than I otherwise would have been, right? lol.
Meanwhile, back to Tinsley… She should have done something, anything… for Sonja’s birthday. It seems like Tinsley would be into celebrations like that… Especially since Tinsley usually dresses like a highly decorated cupcake with sprinkles on top.
Sonja maintains that when Scott started dating Tinsley that everything changed in the financial department. I guess that’s why Sonja believes Scott is footing the bill for much of Tinsley’s stuff. Remember last season, Tinsley’s own Mother had a heart-to heart talk with her to make sure she was being a gracious guest.
If my Mom had to remind me to be a gracious guest I think I would die of embarrassment – especially if it was on national TV.
Tinsley can act so immature. One night at dinner, Tinsley sat right across the table from Sonja and childishly wouldn’t even look at her or talk to her.
Personally, I think Sonja is jealous of Tinsley – I think Sonja would LOVE to have a man swoop in and pay her bills right about now. I think Sonja would also love to have Tinsley’s trust fund.
Rocco – With last season’s “Frenchie” out the picture – it makes more time for Sonja to date Rocco. I can’t tell if he floats Sonja’s boat or not… At one point, while Sonja was talking about Rocco to someone else at the table, Dorinda interrupted to say that Sonja was not dating Rocco.
Sonja likes us to believe that Rocco is dating Sonja for the long haul and is just biding his time. Who knows? I wish Sonja love… genuine, true love.
Tinsley’s Friendship Status – “It’s Infatuated”
We could all be mad at Tinsley for having to live through her bad acting job when Scott “surprised” her. Tinsley was already going to fly to Chicago to see Scott in a matter of hours anyway… It was weird that she dramatically fell on the floor and then started wailing in his arms afterwards…
Clearly, she’s infatuated… or maybe she’s literally head over heels in love… lol.
Bethenny – Tinsley could be miffed because in Bethenny’s TH, she said that if you consider yourself to be a “socialite” that it’s not that big of a jump to being a “kept woman.” As a trust fund kid, Tinsley in a weird way IS kind of a “kept woman” either way, right?
It’s just way more fun to play around with a guy’s bottom line than with the articles of a trust. Although I have heard that “power to adjust” percentages can be very sexy if they’re high enough. #TrustTalk
Carole – Tinsley loves Carole… Carole loves Tinsley. That is all.
Dorinda – Tinsley also loves Dorinda. I think Tinsley is oddly relieved there is always someone in the room that is more drunk than she is. Last season, Tinsley had a few drunken moments – but so far this season it’s been pretty okay for the most part.
Luann – Luann called Tinsley a “spoiled brat.” We did see a few tantrums last season from Tinsley – but not so much yet this year. Tinsley is so pretty – but when she starts with the whiney voice it’s hard to take her seriously.
Ramona – Tinsley is fine with Ramona at the moment – especially because she’s joined the “I hate Sonja” team. Like I said before… just wait until they start trying to date the same guys… lol.
Sonja – Dorinda told Tinsley that Sonja had been talking about Tinsley horribly behind her back and that she should go into the weekend at the Hamptons, “prepared.” I’m guessing she doesn’t mean “Girl Scout Prepared” but more of a West Side Story “ready to rumble” kind of prepared.
Sonja told Dorinda that she knows Tinsley “didn’t have a pot to piss in” and that’s why Sonja invited her to stay with her. Dorinda insists that Tinsley’s family has money – but Sonja thinks it’s not enough to pay for a $9,000 a month hotel room.
Dorinda tried to tell Sonja that one of the reasons Tinsley is mad at her was because when they lived together Sonja was very critical of Tinsley. Sonja disagreed and said she was worried about her – not critical of her. Dorinda said that Sonja may have wanted to be protective of her but that it came off more as critical.
Sonja told Dorinda that Tinsley likes to be with a guy who will take care of her – and that “some women like that” but that Sonja does not – because she likes to be “independent.” <involuntarily snorts and spits orange sparkling water all over my keyboard…brb>
Sonja said of Tinsley to Dorinda, “Well, she didn’t buy that gift card – she doesn’t buy anything – You know Tinsley came to New York for one thing – to get a man to pay for everything. He pays for her rent, he pays for her room, he pays for the gift card…” Dorinda told Tinsley that Sonja was insinuating that she was a kept woman and an “escort.”
Carole told Tinsley she’s heard Sonja called her a “whore.”
“Someone” told the tabloids that Tinsley is an ungrateful guest. Tinsley just wants Sonja to stop talking to the tabloids about her.
I suspect we don’t know the half of what Sonja’s been gossiping to others and to the tabloids about her real housewife friends. Sonja likes to be the source of information – it makes her feel important. She seems to relish it when people ask her opinion and she’s overly happy to share it.
If someone is willing to pay Sonja for her opinion – it’s a win/win.
However, Sonja does not take into account the effect her words have on others. She doesn’t understand how telling a tabloid that Tinsley is “ungrateful” would publically embarrass Tinsley as much as it did.
We’ve seen drunken Sonja bent over with her dupa in the air… We’ve seen Sonja spread eagled with only the Countess as a privacy shield… We’ve seen her wash her underwear in a hotel bidet… And we’ve seen her be completely unfazed to be on national TV with brown water coming out of her kitchen faucet.
Sonja does not seem to embarrass easily. It would be a good day for Sonja if “ungrateful” was the worst that she was called. Did Tinsley overreact? Yes. But Sonja needs to “zip it.”
Fortunately, Tinsley and Sonja conducted a brief friendship summit this week and I think Sonja may be fooled into thinking this war is over. It is not. We will probably be hearing about this all season long. UGH.
Scott – Scott and Tinsley’s relationship at times has been on again/off again. They seem to really enjoy each other – though sometimes I get the heebie-jeebies when I detect a Fatal Attraction vibe coming from her.
I think she’s lovely… She’s just a lot… if you know what I mean.
Okay, now that we’ve looked at their relationships… let’s look at what struck me this season thus far…
The Best Part of the Season
Isn’t it great that we get to see some of the relief efforts Bethenny is spearheading in Puerto Rico? It’s wackadoodle to me that she’s getting flak for it – People are accusing her of doing it for publicity reasons and that she’s just looking for a reason to toot her own horn.
Give me a freakin’ break. Who cares WHY she’s doing it??? Don’t we care THAT she’s doing it? I’m sure the people In Puerto Rico couldn’t give a flippin’ fig about why she’s helping them out. I get that many of you don’t like her – but come the heck on.
Bethenny told a reporter that her relief efforts started when Hurricane Harvey decimated Houston… “I don’t even know that I was inspired – I just did one thing and then it turned into a hundred things – and it’s contagious… And 100 people are helping you and you’re just connecting… and how can you NOT continue to help because you can’t unsee what you’ve seen.”
Then Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico a month later. People warned Bethenny not to go to Puerto Rico because the whole situation was way too harsh. There was no electricity, no water, and people were dying. Bethenny aptly said, “That’s when you DO go – What if everybody just sat on their ass when they said don’t go… and I said, ‘F*ck it’ and I chartered a plane.”
Did I mention Bethenny beat FEMA to the frontlines of the disaster?
Carole’s whole butt-hurt poor me schtick because Bethenny didn’t send her a gold embossed invitation to go to Puerto Rico – grates on my nerves. If you have a close friend who is initiating a gargantuan relief effort – You don’t sit at home and wait for her call you to ask “pretty please with sugar on top” to come help out.
You call her – or better yet – you just show up and say, “What can I do to help?” THAT’s what REAL friends do. That’s what humans do. It’s especially weird to me because Carole has firsthand knowledge of what it’s like to trudge around remote areas in the world from her news correspondent days – she could have easily given her some pointers at the very least.
Really, why didn’t Carole call Bethenny??? These are the times when you put aside the petty crap about how your friendship is changing… You put on your hip waders, boots, and goggles and get to work, no?
Plus, you could use your hip waders to trudge through the other crap some of the women are hurling at each other this season.
Dorinda… I’m looking at you.
How DARE you get so stupidly drunk during the relief effort trip to Puerto Rico that you say disparaging things to relief workers who give their entire lives in service to others? I mean, really, who does that?
I know you’re hurting, Dorinda… but please, please, PUHLEEZE get a grip on your drinking. It shouldn’t be THAT hard to go 3 or 4 days without drinking. Seriously… And if it is… STAY HOME!
In Part 2 of this blog we talked all about this situation so we don’t need to rehash. However, Carole posted an explosive blog last Thursday and in it she wrote of this situation saying, “Dorinda is being used as a pawn to further Bethenny’s agenda and she doesn’t quite know it — yet.”
And just what IS Bethenny’s agenda, Carole?
- To provide disaster relief to those who need it? Shame on her!
- To motivate and inspire people to get out of their comfort zones and get their hands dirty to help people who need it? How horrible!
- To intervene directly with people who are destitute to provide resources to which they would have otherwise never had access? The unmitigated gall!
- To shine the light of truth on dire situations wherein our government is failing to be nimble enough to respond quickly enough to the enormous need at hand? Why, I just can’t believe it!
- To attempt to facilitate people of all walks of life – including the uber-wealthy – to give generously TO THIS CHARITY so more direct aide can result from it? The nerve!
- To use (and even exploit) all of her connections (personal and business), brownie points, favors, and general good will to facilitate more dollars, products, and services being available for the work at hand? How dare she!
- To want to be seen as a good person doing her part for humanity? What a jerk!
I could go on and on… but I will stop there. It upsets me to the core that this real situation is being skewed and turned into a negative storyline. Shame on us for letting it happen!
Here’s the thing – Bethenny should have NEVER mentioned that Adam (Carole’s former coffeemate) said he couldn’t go on the trip to Houston because he wouldn’t get paid. For most of us, losing our wages for any part of just 1 day wouldn’t be easy.
Plus, just because someone doesn’t jump onto your charity’s bandwagon – doesn’t mean they are uncharitable.
I think it surprised Bethenny when Adam turned down the opportunity because she KNOWS he actually does a lot of charity work. She should have never dissed him publically and owes him an equally public apology.
I also think Bethenny should have never discussed the dollar amounts the housewives donated to her charity – whether she had their permission to do so or not.
People are imperfect. Bethenny is imperfect. However, Bethenny – in all of her imperfectness – not only “stood” up but is also continuing to “stand up” for Puerto Rico long after our collective awareness has been distracted by the next issue at hand.
Yeah, maybe Bethenny toots her horn a little when she constantly talks about what she and her charity are doing.
However, we do have to remember that she’s dealing with the American people who have the attention span of a gnat – All she’s doing is to get us to realize the tragedy in Puerto Rico is STILL going on and continues to need our help.
One more thing before we move on to the next topic…
Unknowingly, Dorinda with all of her foibles this trip, saliently realized the truth behind the faces of devastation when she said of a woman who was clinging to her daughter, “She wants the same thing for her daughter that we want for ours.”
The truth behind this realization is the bridge connecting prosperity with poverty… immigrants with nonimmigrants… you with me.
I’m thankful Dorinda went on this trip. I hope she is, too.
The BIG Fight in the Hamptons
To really understand this fight – I attempted to capture everything that happened in the explosive scene so we can judge based on what actually transpired…
It all started when Sonja told the other women at lunch that she was a “little burnt out after everything.” Dorinda asks her, “After what everything?” Sonja responds that it was the lawsuit, the divorce, the kid off to boarding school…and now her daughter is studying for the SATs…
Dorinda responds in her TH by saying that Sonja is always all about Sonja and how she acts like she’s the only one who has ever had to deal with hard issues in her life.
They transition into talking about Ramona. Sonja’s expressed her opinion that Ramona uses men to do stuff that she needs and then she’s done with them – She specifically mentioned Mario, Ramona’s contractor. Ramona and Dorinda think that’s just not true.
I don’t think it’s entirely true either. Ramona uses women to do stuff, too. Lol. She’s an equal opportunity exploiter in that way.
Answer honestly… Do you think it’s true that Ramona uses men to do stuff for her and then leaves them in her wake? It may or may not be true – but at the very least it is consistent with what we see about Ramona’s personality on this show, no?
Sonja boasted that all of the men that were ever in her life are still in her life. Dorinda then goes on a long tirade about how all the men that were ever in her life are still in her life, too. She named Richard and how she just had dinner in heaven with him… and then she blathered on about purgatory, etc. – essentially mocking Sonja.
They start talking about feelings and they made a pact to be more considerate about each other’s feelings when they talk about each other. Sonja said, “I’m very sensitive to your feelings – the thing is that I just don’t express my feelings well.” Ramona disagreed and thought Sonja expresses her feelings very well.
Is that true? I don’t think Sonja expresses herself well about ANY subject – especially feelings…lol. Maybe I’m hallucinating – but Sonja loses me in her delusional tangents every single time – even when she’s sober…lol.
Luann attempted to soothe Sonja by assuring her that she understands that she’s “been through a lot.”
Dorinda interrupted Luann to say, “Stop with this bologna.” Dorinda almost shouted, “I buried a husband, okay…” Sonja interrupted to say they’ve heard about that a thousand times, too.
Dorinda went off on how long it had been since Sonja’s divorce… Sonja said they talk about Richard (Dorinda’s late husband) every day.
Dorinda got right in Sonja’s face and her loud, shouting voice said, “Your husband left you – my husband DIED. So don’t you dare compare your f*cking marriage to me burying my husband.” Sonja maintained that her husband didn’t leave her but that she left him.
Huh? I always thought her former husband left her to marry Sonja’s best friend… but what do I know?
Dorinda said that he left Sonja because [Are you ready for the bombshell?] she was “f*cking around the south of France. You ass.”
In her TH, Dorinda said that divorce is a choice and death is a tragedy. Dorinda demanded that Sonja apologize and Sonja insisted that Dorinda apologize. Dorinda stormed out of the room.
Up until this point, I don’t detect that Sonja was at all comparing the two marriages – only that they both talked about their former husbands. It was Dorinda who made the comparison first.. I don’t know if there’s footage we didn’t see that set Dorinda off… but based on what we saw… I just don’t see it.
In her TH Sonja said, “I didn’t cheat – I had a beautiful marriage – I’d have to be a fool to throw that away.” Sonja said that her friends know the truth about the situation.
Luann tried to calm Dorinda down as Dorinda was gathering her things to leave. Dorinda said that Sonja was “f*cking around on her husband and they chose to divorce. Dorinda said, “I did not choose to put 5 lbs. of dirt on Richard.”
It’s Ramona who said to Sonja, “I know when you get divorced – it’s like a death, okay… but you kind of crossed the line a little here.”
It was only in response to Dorinda’s accusations, that Sonja explained to the only woman left sitting at the table, that she had lost her best friend just like Dorinda did – so it’s like her husband IS dead to her.
Dorinda walked back into the room, interrupted, and said with a sneer, “No… Is he buried? Because by the way – if he [Richard] were alive today I’d be with him – and he would love and respect me – and we’d have a happy marriage. Don’t you dare put my husband’s name in the same name [sentence] with your husband.”
Ramona pleaded with Sonja to say that she’s sorry. As she sipped her tea, Sonja said, “I AM sorry that she’s acting like this.” Lol… It was a hilarious comment lost in the downward spiral of the scene.
Dorinda walked out and called Sonja “an insensitive b*tch.” Dorinda is insulted that Sonja is a narcissist.
Okay, as I said before… You can’t reasonably compare losing a husband by his death to losing a husband through divorce. They are intrinsically different in nature and process.
It is equally unfair to compare the grief of 2 women who both had to bury their husbands. Grief is unique to each person
Similarly, you can’t fairly compare 2 different women’s divorces because each situation is different. Luann’s divorce from Tom was way different than Ramona’s divorce from Mario which was way different than Bethenny’s divorce from Jason which was way different than Dorinda’s divorce from her first husband (pre-Richard) which was way different from Sonja’s divorce from John Morgan which was way different from Tinsley’s divorce from her ex-husband.
I mean, you can’t even honestly compare Luann’s two divorces – even though both had Luann as the common denominator.
It is never wise to compare your grief or loss to someone else’s – and there’s certainly no competition for who is going through the worst grief or loss.
Every single woman on this show has lost at least one husband through death or divorce. One would think they would be kinder and gentler to each other when they see each other hurting. But no…
Dorinda has experienced both – which is likely why she is so adamant that losing a husband through death is way worse than divorce – because that is what she experienced firsthand. She seems to be especially missing her late husband when all of this was filmed.
Sonja may miss her ex-husband, but she misses the lifestyle she enjoyed with him. Sonja seems like she got psychologically stuck somehow and needs some assistance in moving forward into a new chapter in her life. I’m enjoying a sober Sonja vs. drunk Sonja this season.
Death is horrendous. Divorce is also horrendous. In Dorinda and Sonja’s cases, their dreams of what their lives would be like were shattered.
It seems like Dorinda is saying that her loss was bigger because it was permanent… whereas Sonja’s husband was at least still alive. I can understand why she would feel that way,
I have a friend who hates Mother’s Day even though she has loving, adoring kids. It’s because her Mother is horrible to her and screws with her emotions every chance she gets. She says the most despicable things to her including that she hates her.
My Mom got sick when I was 20 and died when I was 24. It was horrible. I miss her terribly. My loss was tragic… However, I don’t have to experience the ongoing pain of having a Mom who is alive but who lives to make me miserable.
I think in many ways that having a Mom who walks the earth who actively despises, rejects, and hurls barbed grenades of insults at you is worse than losing a loving, caring Mother way too soon.
It’s just something to think about.
When talking about costumes for Dorinda’s upcoming Halloween party, Dorinda said she’s going as Lady Gaga… Luann decides she also wants to go as a famous singer… She thinks for a split second and declares, “I can go as myself.” Lol… OMG OMG OMG… So danged hilarious.
When Sonja called Ramona “A POS” in a lengthy breakup text (or email) – But Ramona didn’t know what “POS” meant… lol. It isn’t funny that Sonja called her a “POS” – only that it was lost on Ramona because she didn’t know what it meant. For inquiring minds, it means, “Piece of sh*t.” Lovely, no?
When Carole referred to her leather hot pants and tattooed body suit as a “major, major fashion moment.” I believe it was completely tongue-in-cheek… but ya never know for sure…
When Luann told Tinsley she was taking the “countess” title back. Luann says she will always be a countess and explains, “Is Queen Latifah really a queen? No.”
When Carole tried to get the crowd’s attention at the book signing by clanging the side of her filled plastic champagne glass and the foot of the stem fell off… lol.
Carole used Bethenny’s own words against her when Carole quipped, “Get off my jock” back at Bethenny. Carole also used it in her blog this week.
Ramona moved to the other end of the small table because she didn’t want to sit near Sonja. It was hilarious to me because the table wasn’t that big – you can see everyone and hear everything.
When Sonja painted her outdoor furniture without first washing off the residual cannoli crumbs, dirt globs, and bird poop remnants. Who does that?
When I realized the only thing worse than having to sit through Luann singing happy birthday once… was having to hear it a 2nd time… lol.
Do You Think We’re Idiots?
At one point at dinner, Tinsley magically whips out a check book so she can pay Sonja $2,000 x 4 months that she lived with Sonja = $8,000.
Who still carries checks with them? Especially to a dinner party in the Hamptons? This is so pre-planned it’s silly. We are NOT idiots. The funny thing is that Tinsley didn’t think to even bring a pen…lol. Sonja rejects the check by saying, “I don’t want your money – I want your love.” Umm… Don’t we all KNOW Sonja could use that $8,000???
Ramona said she wanted to host a Christmas Shopping Party” for her girlfriends at Henri Bendel. It turned into a giant infomercial. Plus, the attendees only got 25% off! Heck, I went onto the website on 5-13-18 and depending on how much you buy – almost anyone could get 35% off. It was ridiculous they got all of this publicity and the attendees got a negligible discount.
It isn’t fair we have to watch a commercial when we watch this show. We already have to deal with the various housewives hawking their own products on the show… but come the heck on!
Sonja told us in her TH that she will never, ever forget what she and her husband had together because it was so beautiful. She doesn’t WANT to let go of that – or of the memory. She explained d that’s why she says it’s like he died.
Bethenny makes the point that Dorinda talks about her late husband a lot and that it’s okay with everyone. However, people don’t let Sonja get away with it when she talks about her former marriage. Sonja doesn’t even really talk about her ex-husband himself very often – but she talks about missing the jet-set lifestyle she had while with him.
In some ways, that’s worse, no? You don’t miss the actual person – you miss the money? Lol.
Bethenny and Sonja were talking about Tinsley. Bethenny stuck up for Tinsley by saying that Tinsley donated a big amount to her charity. Sonja began to ask where the money came from – but then she stopped herself and said, “Who cares where it came from?” Bethenny pointed out to Sonja that she answered her own question.
On the plane going to Puerto Rico with Bethenny, Dorinda realized a little too late that maybe she shouldn’t drink. #MeanDrunk
Also on the plane, Dorinda realized that she misses her husband Richard and the life they had together. Dorinda’s life didn’t turn out like she thought it would. She is similar to Sonja in that way – though she would never admit it.
Deliciously Awkward Moments
1) At dinner, Luann nicely made small talk with Bethenny’s boyfriend, Dennis, and asked him how and where he and Bethenny met.
Bethenny told Luann that during the 2016 reunion show, Luann accused Bethenny of “going out with a married man.” Dennis was the married man that Luann “assumed” she knew all about.
Bethenny said, “This is the one.” Luann feverishly tries to adjust the suddenly constricting collar of her flamingo feathered sweater. Bethenny asked Luann to apologize for saying something that was a lie.
Without batting an eye, Luann apologized. Later, in her TH, Luann said that she was just being nice by making pleasant conversation – nothing to get up in arms about. CAPTAIN AWKWARD!
2) Cosmopolitan magazine wanted Carole to write an article for them. Cosmo asked Carole, “How are you with deadlines?” I just laughed and laughed… It was hilarious, because Carole is notoriously not great with deadlines – just ask her book publisher.
Creative writing under stringent deadlines is tough, ya’ll…lol.
3) When Sonja said she didn’t want it, Bethenny took the check Tinsley wrote to Sonja and burned it in the flame of a candle. She then put the burning check right onto one of Ramona’s chargers from their table setting.
Ramona flipped out because she was afraid Bethenny was ruining her charger. Tinsley was flipping out because she wanted to pay Sonja in front of the cameras.
Personally, I think it’s karma to Ramona for what she did to Dorinda’s house last season…lol.
4) At dinner, Dorinda gushed, “I love a bald man – my husband was bald” – This was said about Dennis, Bethenny’s boyfriend while Dorinda was sitting right across from her fully-haired boyfriend, John.
Dorinda went on to say that Dennis had a good face for a bald head.
Dorinda’s gushing about Bethenny’s boyfriend didn’t even start there – When they first arrived at the party and Dorinda found out that Bethenny hated what Dennis was wearing, Dorinda disagreed and said, “The Gucci sweater works for me – The whole thing works for me… Sorry, Bethenny.”
5) Ramona was busy talking about Dorinda behind her back when Dorinda walked up and heard her. This seems to happen to Ramona a lot… lol.
6) Dorinda got so drunk at her own party that her boyfriend had to take her home very early… how embarrassing is that!?!
7) Tinsley collapsed onto the floor into an overly dramatic puddle of goo when Scott surprised her.
Carole brought Tinsley some flowers when Tinsley and Scott broke up. Tinsley decided she wasn’t going to throw out the flowers until she and Scott officially got back together.
So only seconds after Scott surprised her by showing up at her apartment to take her back to Chicago (a trip she was already planning to go on) – Tinsley asked Scott if she could throw out the flowers. I mean, they had said like 10 words to each other by that time. Scott looked like he was gonna puke.
Tinsley called her Mom with Scott in the limousine on their way to the airport. That’s kind of bad enough. But to compound things even further, she gushed about Scott and Tinsley’s Mom asked Scott to Christmas dinner. Tinsley’s Mom also wanted to make him a Christmas stocking featuring a pet that Scott’s ex-girlfriend gave to him.
I wish Tinsley’s Mom would make ME a Christmas stocking, dagnabit!
“Death, taxes, and Luann’s divorce – Some things that are just going to happen.” – Bethenny about Luann’s divorce.
Carole about Luann’s Diana Ross Halloween costume – “I think she’s tone deaf when it comes to cultural stereotypes… She’s generally tone deaf, anyway.” Personally, I think Luann should have gone as Ramona Singer – ‘Cuz that’s as close to a REAL singer as Luann is EVER gonna get.
“I wish that I could be insincere – life would be much easier.” – Carole on not texting Luann when she found out she was divorcing Tom because she thought to do so would be completely insincere.
“When you start being successful at something… Call me back.” – Bethenny to Ramona when they get into a fight about Bethenny’s recent purchase of investment property in the Hamptons. Ouch!
Dorinda said of Cookie, Bethenny’s dog who died but looked really young even at 17 – “She was the Zsa Zsa Gabor of dogs.”
Carole explained why she still had a physical relationship with Adam even though technically, they aren’t together anymore. Carole said, “I guess, yes, there are those who will say, ‘That’s great for Adam’ … You know… ‘He has his cake and eats it too.’ But then I thought,’ I like cake, also.’ ”
Dorinda told Tinsley that Sonja called Dorinda, “fat” and said, “You know there’s an old saying, ‘Never make a mistake twice – do it 3 or 4 times so you really get it wrong.”
“That’s gonna leave a mark!” – Bethenny said of Luann’s “You were right about Tom” apology because she knew it pained Luann to say it at all.
“What happened to us? We all went through the midtown tunnel and took acid?” – Bethenny commenting on their fashion choices for the party in the Hamptons.
Quotes Most Likely to be Slapped on T-Shirts & Mugs and Sold at Cafépress
“Even prison b*tches have the one person they’re loyal to.” – Sonja as she’s telling Bethenny about her fallout with Ramona and how she’s cranky Ramona didn’t have her back.
“Say it…Forget it – Write it… Regret it.” – Dorinda told Ramona about the saying when they were talking about Sonja’s scathing text message.
When Sonja was talking to Ramona’s friends about her boyfriend, Rocco… Dorinda interrupted from the other end of the table to tell Sonja that she’s not, in fact, dating Rocco. Ramona wanted Dorinda to count to 10 before she speaks. Dorinda said, “10, 9, 8, 7, 6 – You’re not dating Rocco…. 5-4-3-2-1 – You’re not dating Rocco.”
After the above quote, Dorinda said to Sonja, “Liar, liar – ho on fire!”
“I’m insulted by the audacity of her narcissism.” – Dorinda about Sonja.
Bethenny said of Sonja’s use of too many words, “Sonja would be great if she was Twitter personified – You’re only allowed to speak in 140 characters or less.”
“Keep it cute.” – Carole’s advice to Tinsley when she saw Scott again.
Dorinda advised Sonja about their trip to the Hamptons and says, “When in doubt – don’t shout it out.”
That’s t! Yay! I throw my hands in the air and yell, “Woo hooo!” We made it through this crazily detailed 3-part blog! Ya’ll should get hazard pay… lol.
Sorry I didn’t post this when I originally thought I would – but it kept getting longer and longer… lol…
I really could have easily done two separate blogs on the disaster relief efforts and the big fight – but that would have made this a 5-part blog… NOBODY wants that…lol…
Then, I almost did a whole thing on Carole’s blog… but that too would have been long.
It’s crazy…RHONY is really bringing it this season – unlike RHOBH AND RHOA… Hopefully, it will stay interesting, right?
It’s no secret that recent seasons of some of our favorite franchises have been disappointing. The other day, Reality_Bytes and I decided to co-write “A Letter to Bravo” specifically about this last season of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We may or may not be a tad cranky… lol. We’ll be posting the letter here in the next couple of days… You have been warned… lol.
Thanks so much for reading! I really appreciate it!
Video of the Week
Many of you know I sometimes randomly break out into song for no apparent reason. I don’t believe I’ve ever tried to sing to a whale – but this guy has… and they actually sang along. This YouTube video was posted by The Dodo entitled, “Man’s Funny Beluga Song Attracts Beluga Whales Who Sing Back.” Enjoy!